Hey, American uterus owners: want to be completely put off by the idea of ever procreating? Then read this expose in the NY Post about how many women have gotten screwed by our country’s Stone Age maternity leave policies.
In Canada, you get 50 weeks of paid maternity leave. In England, you get 20 weeks paid. In Mexico, 12 paid. As a matter of fact, 178 countries around the world mandate paid leave for creating a totally new human. In America? Twelve weeks, unpaid, and only if you’ve worked for the company for at least a year, and only if your company has more than 50 employees. And they *technically* have to give you your job back, but as this article proves, your employer can probably find a way around that.
So hey, pro-lifers: where are your voices on this? Where are your rallies and signs to support new moms, instead of expecting ones? Where is there a single pro-life legislator fighting to make it easier to have a baby and keep your job? Where are the “family values” politicians when it comes to actually having a child and raising it?
Going through this right now. Why can’t I have a baby AND a job?
Sorry. This pro-lifer is too busy caring about the murder of babies to spend time getting you free money for not working. Its funny how the same people who grouse about men making more or getting promoted sooner have no issues with giving a woman a very long, extended paid vacation after birth but you don’t hear them campaigning for the fathers to have those same benefits.
Hey guys, check it out: pro-lifers want to force you to have a baby, but begrudge you an “extended paid vacation” and “free money for not working” to take care of it.
Like, this is so fucking ridiculous I cannot even. Babies are being murdered and daddies aren’t getting paid time off, you guys, so mothers shouldn’t get a free vacation!!!11
PRO-LIFERS DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU. THEY ONLY CARE THAT YOU ARE FORCED TO CARRY A FETUS TO TERM. After you leave the hospital, they don’t give two shits about the quality of your life OR the baby’s. I hope everyone realizes that by now.
Hey, pro-birth person. Because that’s what you all do - get that baby born somehow, someway, no matter if you have to use coercion and misinformation, no matter if you’re treating the woman like a uterus and not a real, full person. And when that baby is born and the mom is poor and needs help (which is why she came to you in the first place), TOO FREAKING BAD. “We don’t help with that!” You find out the help they promised you is gone with the wind, and then they paint you as evil because *gasp*! SHE USES WELFARE. Or, they promise you an open adoption, and the MINUTE your week where they let you change your mind is over, a steel wall just slams down.
Been there, honey, done that, on the “pregnancy crisis centers”. And seen it and had to put a friend back together on the adoption thing.
I think you don’t understand a damn thing about why we have maternity leave and why it’s necessary. For starters, the MINIMUM of time that it takes the female body to minimally heal after giving “normal” birth is six weeks. Even then, you’re not sleeping, in pain, are a liability on the road, and you and your baby are JUST starting to figure out “this parent stuff”.
If you went through a c-section, which people seem to like to ignore is major abdominal surgery, you need even MORE time to heal.
Then there’s breastfeeding. You get to feed your child in the way you want, but after 6 weeks? HA. I don’t think so. Companies HATE that and will use the letter of the law to make it impossible for you to either run home/to daycare and feed the baby. This forces you to pump, which is even harder, because your 6 week old baby is now totally confused between where you are and what the bottle is. And don’t even try to work out a good pumping spot with your boss, because you WILL end up doing it in a bathroom stall or, at best, in your car with a blanket draped over you, while the people who go for smoke breaks every hour sit there and yell about “not fair”. So when you put your baby on formula, then you get to be the La Leche League’s supervillain.
Been there, done that too.
Then… did I mention the highway robbery that is childcare? We are so profoundly screwed up that working at Target for $7 an hour (after the actual corporation you worked for fires you for pumping and you can’t get anything else) means to the government that you are MAKING TOO MUCH and therefore do not require any assistance. You people think that every welfare recipient is sitting there with YOUR money, laughing about it while they take a bath of welfare checks and then go on vacation to Cancun. THIS IS NOT THE REALITY. The reality is that getting the help you need to feed you and your baby is harder to get then getting Romney to admit to all the times he’s lied.
Also, been there, done that.
And you feel terrible. You’re not only fully healed after only six weeks, but you’re still at the mercy of your hormones. Dropping your baby off at a daycare when they’re all of 6 weeks old is a terrible rip in your relationship for BOTH of you. You feel like you’re the worst parent in the world. The first time I dropped my daughter off, it looked nice and clean, but I saw a crawling baby put a worm that had managed to find its way in without notice in her mouth. And I’m talking about a place that was supposed to be “the best”, the place that I scraped every penny and lived on Ramen to get her in to. If I’d called in and said I was going to be late on my first day, they’d have fired me then. So I spent the whole way to work sobbing, and got there trying to look like I hadn’t.
So, why should we get with the rest of the world in this? Happier, healthier families. A time to heal. Time to figure you and your baby out, no matter if it’s a biological or adoptive situation. Less people driving around dead tired, being dangerous to those around them. Less moms feeling torn apart and convinced that they’re the worst mothers in the world because they had to put their tiny, helpless baby into the hands of people they don’t know and gamble that everything is okay. Less women who are lied to and then dropped by “crisis centers”. Dads getting to stay home for a bit too, to help out with everything. They deserve to get time with their babies just as much as women do.
Listen up, idiot: IT IS NOT A VACATION. Not in any way, shape or form. Those measly 6 weeks are you, in pain, trying to communicate with and navigate a relationship with a totally new human being who is dependent on you in every way, but who does everything either the very opposite of what you do or gets sick at the worst time. You spend those weeks covered in things you never thought you’d be, delirious from lack of sleep, often with nobody to help you, unable to clean the house like you did before, unable to take decent, daily showers no matter how you rig it, having to take 5-minute naps when the baby decides to nap, having to learn to shovel food in FAST when you’re hungry because that’s about the time the baby gets cranky, and the cherry on top of this shit cake? When you go back to work still raw from all of this and find out that you’ve either been fired (employers HATE moms; I’ve heard one gripe about “breeders”) or you are forced to take a lesser position. And THAT’S if your company fits all the rules of FMLA.
Don’t. You. DARE. Say “Maybe you should’ve thought about it before you had that baby, then”, because no matter how wanted the child is, THIS STILL HAPPENS. And right now, you’re talking to someone who was raped and then coerced to have the baby, by “pro-birth” people like you.
So SHUT THE FUCK UP, because you have NO idea what you’re talking about. Until you’ve been a 19 year old forced to be a single mother, or even a pregnant woman and her partner trying to figure out how they’re going to live without her income for six weeks and the only thing they can think of is to leave the baby with their 80 year old grandmother who can barely see, let alone take care of a newborn, while mom has to go back to work after ONE WEEK…
THEN you can talk. For now, you can get the hell off your high horse and actually DO something about the deplorable conditions moms face here.
Giving birth = HUGE thing, physiologically, mentally, and emotionally for everyone, including the baby. Not having to worry about how you’re going to feed that child because you have benefits, and knowing that your boss HAS to take you back = happier families and workers. Happier families and workers = better-off individuals. Happier individuals = better societies. Better societies = WE ALL WIN.
Now do you get it, miss pro-birth, or do I need to chop this into smaller words?
A few weeks ago my mom stapled pages of a story in one of her women’s magazines together and handed it to me. She gave it to me pretty much with the tag lines “for your feminist blog” and “something new to consider.” Indeed it was; she knows me well.
The story is titled “I was forced to be pregnant.” With a title like that, reading it was actually not on the top of my to read list. I thought it was about women not exercising their right to choice. I was very, very wrong on that one.
Have you ever heard of Reproductive coercion? It is a term that was quite recently coined by the advocates against domestic violence to describe a certain type of abuse some women face. It occurs when a man pressures their partner to have kids and/or impregnates them against their will. Reproductive coercion comes in three different types:
1. Emotional pressure that turns into verbal and physical abuse.
2. Sabotaging birth control
3. Marital rape
Over 75% of women 19-49 who reported once experiencing domestic violence also endured some type of reproductive control by men. It’s all about control and domination over a woman’s body.
The first story in the magazine is about a woman who got married around 36 years of age. After a few months of dating her boyfriend talked excitedly about having children. After he proposed he began calling her “The Babymaker.” She then confided with him that one of her fallopian tubes was blocked. He in return insisted she see a fertility doctor. She recounts, “I had finally met a great guy who was eager to start a family with me. What woman wouldn’t fall for that?” Soon after her honeymoon he persisted on in an obsessive manner, but his efforts had to be temporarily halted as she had to get emergency back surgery. Alas, 6 months into recovery he was back to pressuring her again. She was in much pain at the time due to her back, but she agreed to In Vitro Fertilization. She then became pregnant, but soon miscarried. In response, her husband grabbed her by the neck, choking her. He apologized, blaming his outburst on his grief and had her sign up for another round of IVF. And then a third round. She tried to put him off with the excuse that she needed to weigh more before she could take treatments, her husband forced her to get on the scale often and filled the fridge with fattening foods. “It hurt that all I was good for was getting pregnant.” She recounts. At the end, he screamed at her, threatening to replace her with a maid if she couldn’t get pregnant and she told him she no longer wanted to have his child. He destroyed bedroom furniture, pushed her down the stairs and threatened her with a gun. She fled to a domestic violence shelter.
The second story was about a woman who faced marital rape. This woman was 40, had a then boyfriend and two children from a previous marriage. After telling her boyfriend she did not want any more children, her boyfriend refused to wear a condom and began to rape her. She then became pregnant with her third child. Birth control was never an option for her because she couldn’t hide pills anywhere for he went through all of her belongings. Three months after giving birth, he raped her again, impregnating her with twins. She lost the twins in a physical fight with him, but soon became pregnant again. During her recovery she begged her obstetrician to remove her ovaries and devise a lie to tell him; that she had cancer. After a decade of sexual abuse and violence she was able to get a job that kept her out of the house and often times traveling.
One in four callers to the National Domestic Abuse hotline said that their partners had tried to force them to become pregnant. Why? As one woman stated, “Its like he wants to own me from the inside out.” Having a baby is the perfect tie that binds. These type of abusers want to create a circumstance in which their partner is dependent on him.
WHAT’S THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD?
Many voters never consider how defunding these clinics could hurt victims of domestic violence who turn to them for counseling as well as pregnancy prevention. Abused women will turn to health care providers long before they will turn to domestic abuse hotlines and organizations. Many women in abusive relationships rely on life saving, affordable care programs such as Title X. It is critical that such places are open and operation when women and children need them so desperately.
You had your 15 minutes of fame many decades ago, please stop.
I am so sick of seeing politicians and talking heads using the death of this teenager to their benefit. Mr. Sharpton if you care about this one African American boy being killed, how come you show no interest in the MILLIONS of African American lives that have been ended by abortion? Even today, in 2012 there are hundreds of African American unborn humans being destroyed in the womb. And though there’s nothing that could make that any worse than it already is, Mr. Sharpton many of these lives are being ended by white doctors, who are making good money off of slaying what is your people.
I don’t know who you’re trying to fool. You support a president who supports abortion at ANY stage in pregnancy, including late term abortions. You support a black man, who supports the PAID MURDER OF HIS OWN PEOPLE.
Do you cry for the souls lost to abortion?
Do you protest outside of clinics that purposely target poor black communities?
Are you angered by Planned Parenthoods dark, racist past?
Are you supporting pregnancy centers, so women can access free resources for their children and families?
If Travon Martin’s life was ended for $450 dollars at an abortion clinic, would you still fight for him? Would you still hold rallies? Would you still weep and pray?
Travon Martin’s life was cut tragically short, no doubt about it. Thankfully, he got to experience life, even though he only had a short 17 years to do so. But will we turn a blind eye against the Travon’s that are still in the womb?
NO. You are complete and utter SCUM for making Trayvon Martin’s murder by a racist man and a racist society about you and your RACIST FUCKING ANTICHOICE AGENDA. You think I can’t see through you? You think PoC can’t see through you and your disingenuous lies? This is just further proof that white, christian antis don’t give a fuck about Black people once they’re born. You gotta use their deaths for propaganda so you can control pregnant Black people. Let’s get a few things straight right now:
Spell the kid’s name right, first off. TRAYVON MARTIN. Learn it, burn it into your memory, and ask yourself why you feel entitled to take such a stance against MoC like Rev. Al Sharpton and President Barack Obama.
There is no “black genocide” happening when pregnant people of color get abortions. They don’t have it in for black embryos. They aren’t aiding in the destruction of their own people. They are utilizing their reproductive rights! JFC.
Planned Parenthood does not “target black neighborhoods.” This idea that abortion clinics are targeting black neighborhoods is patently false and has been thoroughly debunked. Guttmacher has a report that found that fewer than 1 in 10 abortion clinics are in neighborhoods that are predominantly black. Further, they found that 63% of clinics were in neighborhoods where one half or more of residents were non-hispanic white. They also have a followup report.
Planned Parenthood doctors are not in a lucrative business. Does the term NON-profit mean nothing to you?
Black pregnant people do have higher rates of abortion, but that’s because they have higher rates of unintended pregnancy (67%). And that’s a result of INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM, poverty, discrimination, lack of access to healthcare and contraception and sex education, among other things. In addition, in terms of total numbers Non-Hispanic Black pregnant people make up only 30% of total abortions whereas Non-Hispanic White pregnant people account for 36%. Lastly, the fertility rate of Black and White people capable of being pregnant are on par with one another and the population growth of the Black community is not in decline due to high abortion rates.
Here’s what a WoC thinks of your offensive and derogatory billboards and racist claims about black people killing their own people with abortion [again, burn it into your memory, you might learn something]:
“Billboard Babylon” by Cherisse Scott
Black Children Are An Endangered Species?
Every 21 Minutes The Next Possible Leader Is Aborted?
The Most Unsafe Place For An African American Child Is In My Womb?
I Guess You Assumed You Could Say What You Wanted In Jesus’ Name
And I Would Let It Slide
Let It Ride Like You Rode A Ship And Talked Some Shit
To Bring Me To A Land That Wasn’t Mine
Told My King I’d Be Fine And That You’d Be Kind
But As The Story Goes 500 Years Later
And You Still Lying
You Wasn’t Trying To ‘Make Me Betta’
At Night Together We Conceived That Child
Forced Me To Breed That Child
More Stock To Tend More Crops For Your Hard Labor
Back Broke, Culture Choked
Vilifying Me ‘Cause I’m Trying To Survive
Blaming Me Of Committing Genocide?
I Just Been Trying To Live Inside America And This Dream
Trying To Keep Hope Alive While You Keep The Pope Alive
And The Pedophiles Who Would Rape That Same Child And Sweep It Under Rugs
Hail Mary’s And Hugs With Hues Of Red White And Blue
With Liberty And Justice For Only You
My Womb Produced All The Leaders You Constantly Kill
Every 21 Minutes A Black Child Is Faced With The Real Deal
On 58th & State
Swallowed The Blue Pill But The Matrix Is Hate, Racial Profiling, And Rape
Prayin’ For A Clean Slate After Bargains And Pleas
Endangered In A Land Of Thieves, But A Species?
Insensitivity At Its Best
Unworthy To Lead A Charge Then Charge Me With Murder!
Where Are You After Our Babies Are Born?
You Scorn, Jack Welfare & Health Reform
Sons And Daughters Mourned Over Caskets And Graves
But Not By My Hand
Ain’t Never Been My Plan To Kill The Next Black Man
Yet You Stand Blameless As If You Really Give A Damn
You Eating Filet Mignon, Baby Eating Spam
Food Deserts, Polluted Air
Shit Schools Setting Rules For Ritalin Ridden Babies
You Take A Time Out!
And Put Some Time In
Cause You Don’t Comprehend My Beginning Or My End
Covering My Roots Like Thieves Cover Tracks
One Nation Under God
Indivisible ‘Til We Visualized A Leader
Targeting Me Again As A Breeder
With His Picture To Mock Me
Billboards To Shock Me
This Ain’t Shit But The Next Plan To Block Me
But I See You…Pharisee.
Black Preachers Gon’ Wild
Pimpin’ King James For Fame
In Jesus’ Name Pitting Blame
Like God Is Pleased
You The Disease In The Village That We Just…Can’t…Shake
But My Back Is Something You Just…Can’t…Break
Flexible Like The Willow
Bosom Soft Like A Pillow That Was Used To Nurse
Yo Foul Ass
If I Wasn’t Spiritual I’d Curse
Yo Foul Ass
But You Already Done
Til You Do Right By Me The Race Ain’t Run, The Spin Ain’t Spun
You Think You’ve Won But It’s Only Just Begun
Like A Sucka Punch When You Least Expect It
I’ll Be There
Leading A Healthy Life In Spite Of Your Hypocrisy
I’ll Be There
Raising A Healthy Family Rooted In Democracy
I’ll Be There
Doing What Black Women Have Always Had To Do In Spite Of You
Rebuke That Shit…
Excerpt from Is Abortion ‘Black Genocide’? by Kathryn Joyce:
The argument leaves Black women facing the accusation that they are either fools or murderers—and either way complicit in what Mark Crutcher says is Planned Parenthood’s sinister plan for “convincing the target group to commit mass suicide.” The accusation cuts to the heart of an intersection of sexism and racism for Black women, who have historically been pressed to choose allegiance between two aspects of their beings: their gender and the race.
It continues today. Maame Mensima-Horn, an African American activist based in Miami who consulted for SisterSong, says that the “Black genocide” argument has remained a male-driven conversation that shuts out women of color and ignores the role they have played in the reproductive justice movement. MensimaHorn sees a new generation of male activists relegating women to “breeder” status and blaming them for a deficit in the Black population.
It seems a neat return to the 1920s debate in the Black community about how to best uplift the race. W.E.B. DuBois argued for “quality versus quantity,” saying that Black interests were best met by family planning that allowed parents to invest more in fewerchildren, not by simply birthing greater numbers. In 2010, Catherine Davis of Georgia Right to Life seems to take the latter position, saying that if Black women hadn’t had abortions, “we would be 59 million strong.”
The emphasis underscores a history of sexism in the Civil Rights Movement and its institutions, says Gray, in which Black women’s intellectual and physical labor was the backbone of the movement yet was rarely acknowledged. To day, “Black genocide” movement leaders, such as Childress and King, emphasize male leadership in both the movement and church—not surprising in conservative circles, but the destructive effect on women of color continues.
For Gray, this kind of sexism is a result of White fundamentalist outreach as well as a symptom of a larger problem: the breakdown of political education in Black politics.
He says, The result of it is that we have people claiming that the maafa is the abortion of black kids, instead of what it really is: the great catastrophe related to the slave trade. It means a bunch of frauds can rewrite your history and make it everything that it’s not. The freedom movement, which is what civil rights is about, is about the freedom of citizens to determine their lives for themselves and make their own opportunities.
And not, Grays says, to become a mother “because these people think you ought to be a mother. ”
How about what Sister Song thinks of your bullshit?
Our opposition research revealed how data and facts were mis-used by anti-abortionists to posit a “conspiracy theory” based on a historically racist past to claim that policymakers, black leaders, health officials, and community activists who support reproductive justice are all part of a scheme to kill off the black race. The cornerstone of their genocide theory is the fact that the black birth rate has declined over a number of years. While birthrates for all races of women have also declined for decades because of educational and economic opportunities, and increased reproductive health services, abortion opponents never mention the decision making of black women and how our improving educational and economic status influenced our reproductive choices.
Black women have always controlled our fertility when we could, even during the horrific conditions of enslavement. We brought knowledge from Africa as midwives that helped us practice birth control and have abortions. After the end of slavery, we were more determined than ever to end the forced breeding of our bodies, and we cut our birth rate in half in the first 40 years after the Civil War, 110 years before abortion or birth control was legalized. We continued this intentional decline as part of our racial uplift strategy, to have fewer children to provide more opportunities for the ones we did have. Ignorance of our history and lies about our agency malign the memories of our ancestors.
Black women, however, do have three times more abortions than white women, a statistic anti-abortionists use to demonize abortion providers. In fact, black women do have more unintended pregnancies, have less access to contraception, stay single longer, often have sex earlier, are poorer, are more vulnerable to childhood sexual abuse, and experience single motherhood much more than their white counterparts. Sixty-one percent of black women who have abortions already have children. The higher rate of abortion is an understandable outcome of the social context in which we find ourselves.
Higher unintended pregnancy rates are not a new phenomenon for black women. Before the legalization of abortion in 1973, African American women were thirteen times more likely to die from illegal abortions than white women. For reproductive justice activists, the solution to reduce the need for abortions is to help black women have fewer unintended pregnancies and to eliminate the obstacles that interfere with personal decision making.
We emphasized the agency and decision making of black women to refute their “disappearing race” narrative. Using historical data and current work by black women’s organizations, we projected the image of strong black women in defense of our own bodies, not the puppets of either the medical industry or the anti-abortion movement.
Another anti-abortion tactic was to claim that abortion clinics are “always” located in African American communities, especially by Planned Parenthood. In Georgia, we were able to easily refute this claim by presenting demographic data that proved that of the 15 abortion clinics in our state, only 4 are in predominantly black neighborhoods. Abortion opponents frequently use this “geographical” tactic against providers to bolster their conspiracy theories. While we were in the middle of the fight in Georgia, we were contacted by a Planned Parenthood clinic in Nashville that had recently relocated near an African American community for economic reasons that had nothing to do with race, but they were also accused of selecting their location to “kill black babies.” An accusatory billboard was erected directly across the street from the new clinic.
We retold the story of Margaret Sanger and her allegedly racist agenda. Left unchallenged, their narrative about genocide would powerfully echo in the black community. We decided to do our own research on Sanger and present the facts from the perspectives of black women.
We contacted Sanger’s biographer, Ellen Chesler, and asked Joyce Follet, an expert on Planned Parenthood’s archives in the Sophia Smith Collection at Smith College, to provide original source materials and information. They provided a wealth of historical evidence that belied the allegations of our opponents. Most importantly, we were able to prove that African American leaders, particularly women, had worked with Sanger in the 1930s to ask for clinics to be opened in black communities. We challenged their historical revisionism by citing famous leaders like Mary McLeod Bethune, W.E.B. Dubois, Walter White, Mary Church Terrell, Rev. Adam Clayton Powell, Sr., and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and organizations like the NAACP, the National Urban League, and the National Council of Negro Women. We dared them to call these icons of the civil rights movement pawns of a racist agenda. In the eyes of the black community, our opponents had an uphill climb to prove they knew more about helping the African American community than the famous legends they were maligning.
Go read the whole thing. Seriously, I’ll wait.
Now let’s listen to Loretta Ross, “Re-enslaving African American Women”:
African American women who care about reproductive justice know that the limited membership in the Black anti-abortion movement doesn’t represent our views and we are not fooled into thinking that they care about gender justice for women. In fact, if they had their way, we would be re-enslaved once again, based on our fertility.
They tell African American women that we are now responsible for the genocide of our own people. Talk about a “blame the victim” strategy! We are now accused of “lynching” our children in our wombs and practicing white supremacy on ourselves. Black women are again blamed for the social conditions in our communities and demonized by those who claim they only want to save our souls (and the souls of our unborn children). This is what lies on steroids look like.
The sexism in their viewpoints is mind-boggling. To them, Black women are the poor dupes of the abortion rights movement, lacking agency and decision-making of our own. In fact, this is a reassertion of Black male supremacy over the self-determination of women. It doesn’t matter whether it is from the lips of a man or a woman. It is about re-enslaving Black women by making us breeders for someone else’s cause.
I am reminded of the comments of Shirley Chisholm, the first Black woman in Congress, who dismissed the genocide argument when asked to discuss her views on abortion and birth control:
To label family planning and legal abortion programs “genocide” is male rhetoric, for male ears. It falls flat to female listeners and to thoughtful male ones. Women know, and so do many men, that two or three children who are wanted, prepared for, reared amid love and stability, and educated to the limit of their ability will mean more for the future of the Black and brown races from which they come than any number of neglected, hungry, ill-housed and ill-clothed youngsters.
But mostly, we need to let the world know that they do not speak for Black women. As my mother would say, “they might be our color, but they are not our kind.”
Click link for transcript and background info from Colorlines^.
TRAYVON MARTIN was 17 years old. He had hopes and dreams. He had friends. He had a family that loved him, a family that is grieving for him and STILL haven’t gotten justice for his brutal and cold-blooded murder. Don’t you dare compare this young man to a fucking embryo. That’s disgusting and dehumanizing and a belittling of what PoC are feeling right now. How dare you co-opt a murder and use it against Black people capable of getting pregnant to insinuate that their desire to not be pregnant is destroying their entire race and is the same as a racist piece of shit killing someone’s child?!
This is a fellow white person telling you to get off your self-righteous high horse so PoC don’t have to deal with your racist ass ever again, especially not during their time of mourning.
That is all.
Epic takedown is epic.
It would likely have been that many fewer were it legal.
- The only study I can find for anything remotely like that 650,000 deaths statistic is from the 70s. Medicine has improved significantly since then. Try harder.
Maternal death rate refers to people giving birth, so abortion’s legality is irrelevant. People seeking abortion in Ireland just go to England to get it done.
- When legal, abortion is one of the safest procedures in all of medicine.
Iffy about this one, but still made it.
“But I never, ever thought it meant that other people should not be allowed to make their own choice. It just meant, for me, it was a wrong one.”
My heart goes out, really and truly, to all those who regret their abortion. But it gives me hope to hear from the people who don’t think that their regret means that abortion should be illegal.
That was my first thought, too. I also think that this confession brings up a great argument against abortion restrictions based on gestational period. Without giving each person an adequate amount of time to consider each and every option, there’s a greater chance that those people will not be very confident in their decisions.
I wish this person had not lived in an area that had restrictions in place so that they may have had time to make a decision with which they could feel comfortable and happy. I hope that they are able to seek the support they need to be okay with their decision, and I greatly appreciate their open-mindedness for other people’s needs!
There are a lot of reasons someone might get an abortion near the legal limit in the United States. There are even more reasons in countries with more restrictive laws, such as spousal consent or even longer waiting periods. Some of these are:
- No pregnancy symptoms
- No recognition of pregnancy symptoms
- Denial of pregnancy
- Raising money (look up “chasing the fee”)
- Arranging transportation (difficult in states with only one or two providers)
- Arranging care for dependents (children, parents, spouses, siblings)
- Getting time off work
- Waiting periods
- Misinformation and delays from crisis pregnancy centers
- Dealing with the aftermath of rape (shock, grief, denial, and troubles with evaluating options and making decisions all lead to delays in taking action)
- Obtaining parental consent
- Safety concerns in an abusive situation
- Health concerns in the pregnant person and fetus that don’t show up until later in the pregnancy
- Changes in life situations (losing a job, losing a home, losing insurance, losing a significant other)
Though I can’t speak for this specific poster, these issues all contribute to rushed decision-making. Working to end restrictive laws, regulate crisis pregnancy centers and support vulnerable populations, such as teens, those with lower education levels, and those in poverty would most likely reduce later abortions and help people come to the decision that is right for them.
Ya, think about the 70,000 women’s lives that are sacrificed due to unsafe abortion. Think about the fetuses that die along with them. Think about the 220,000 kids those mothers leave behind since 61% of people seeking abortions are already mothers. Think about how making abortion illegal actually kills women. Think about how you value the potential life of a fetus, versus the actualized life of a fully grown person whom the “pro-life” movement wants to sentence to death because they want to abolish abortion and make it illegal and thus unsafe. Think about what you’re really supporting here.
Dead mother, dead embryo/fetus, orphaned kids.
Pro-life: You’re doing it wrong.
Eek! This are AMAZING. Thinking about going as Rowe vs. Wade…
“Wear all your winter gear and curl into the fetal position whenever possible: You’re a frozen embryo.”
Susie Cagle for Cartoon Movement.
Investigative comics journalist about “Pregnancy Crisis Centers” and the biased advice they give to deter women from having accurate information on their abortion options.
Sorry for the ciscentric language, but this is an otherwise great comic on CPCs.
One characteristic of many anti-choice images and posts on the internet is that they reference God or one’s religion as a reason for them being “pro-life”. God made everybody special and unique, what are we to deem God’s creations unworthy and abort them?
This brings one question into the picture then, does the bible support the pro-life stance?
The answer? A vague not really.
The first thing to examine is does the bible straight out denounce abortion. With many issues, such as homosexuality, there are bible verses which will straight out ban or denounce such things. However, when it comes to abortion, there are no such bible verses.
So, what does the bible have to say about abortion or the value of fetuses. Quite a lot actually, but not in the way most pro-life people would assume the bible would.
First off, the bible, in Exodus 21:22-23 states that a fetus is not to be valued as equal to that of a human who has been born.
This is further reinforced by Leviticus 27:6 and Number 3:15-16 in which God places no value on fetuses, instead, counting an individual as a child from the moment they become more than a month old (This is, because of the much less developed medical situations, speculated to be due to the fact that children under a month old were extremely vulnerable, and thus had a much higher mortality rate than current times).
Not only that, God sometimes approves of killing fetuses (Numbers 31:15-17, Hosea 9:14-16, Hosea 13:16) while also describing, in the bible, how to induce an abortion in a women who has been unfaithful to her husband (Numbers 5:11-31).
The most damaging verse to the pro-life argument that a sacred fetus should not have to die due to its mother’s choice though, is Genesis 38:24, where God approves of burning a pregnant adulteress, therefore demonstrating that a fetus is not a separate entity from its mother’s choice.
So, how do priests and people who pour over the bible daily still claim that abortion is wrong?
The Sixth Commandment, Thou shalt not kill. Personhood is irrelevant, as a zygote or a fetus is life of human genetics, and therefore it is a sin to kill it.
The Sixth Commandment is actually one of those things which has been lost in translation and so the original nuance of the verse has actually been changed when the script went from Hebrew, was translated various times, and you read it in English.
So what did the Sixth Commandment ACTUALLY say?
It actually does say, roughly, Thou shalt not kill, but the keyword here is kill. When we trace the word back to the Hebrew manuscripts, the word is RASACH, or translating to roughly murder, or an illegal killing judged harmful to society, by society. How does this differ with the Sixth Commandment which most people know? The first one is an absolute denouncement of all killing, the original one is a subjective denunciation of killing which is harmful to society.
Even within the bible, God orders the people of Israel to kill other people, and this is not a violation of the Sixth Commandment because it was not deemed harmful to society (1 Samuel 15:3).
So what does this difference make to the pro/anti-choice debate?
Because fetuses are not considered people, an abortion can not be considered a murder, and therefore is not in violation of the Sixth Commandment.
Not only that, if we are the descendants of Adam, as the bible claims, then God creates us in his image as he created Adam. The creation story of Adam is that his full form was created from dust of the ground, and only then was he given a soul. If we are to take this as a parable, or as an analogy of the birth of a child, then we can easily claim that the only fetuses who have souls are those which are passed the 8 months mark when all their physical organs and structures are fully formed and the fetuses begin to show signs of sentience.
So in conclusion, based solely on biblical evidence, no pro-life person can claim that having an abortion is a sin, nor can they claim that the bible says that abortion is wrong, evil, or murder.
The only thing I have issue with in this is the claim that 8-month old fetuses are sentient. I have seen no evidence to say they are or are not. The only evidence I’ve seen is from the RCOG’s study that says that fetuses cannot feel pain prior to 24 weeks and exist in an almost sleep-like, unconscious state while in the womb.
Everything else, though, is spot on.
The ACLU sued North Carolina for approving a “Choose Life” specialty license plate but “expressly and repeatedly” rejecting a pro-choice plate. The ACLU sued on behalf of four state residents after lawmakers rejected six proposals for plates bearing words such as “Respect Choice” or “Trust Women; Respect Choice.”
Link to article in title.
Good. That shit is blatantly unfair and unconstitutional.
I want this case to become a precedent so I don’t have to see these license plates up here anymore.
[Image: a fervent pro-life protester over an eight-piece blue background. A sticker on his shirt reads, “Abortion Isn’t Healthcare.” He is pointing upwards with both hands. Top text: “I’M SO PRO-LIFE” Bottom text: “I HOPE YOU DIE OF ABORTION COMPLICATIONS”]
For this lout.
Oh god, this person…
What should be done is to give back the human proportion to the abortion issue, and when we see it as such we may be able to have much more understanding for the woman who chooses it. Women who choose abortion are consistently labeled killers, and I personally have been compared to Hitler and called a great murderer.
A woman who feels she cannot go on, and with pain and despair she decides that she has to give up her child, is this woman a killer? Really really. But look, you cannot let these words hurt you. You have to be strong not to pay any attention because those who do that call you a Hitler and relate it to the Holocaust prove that they do not know what the Holocaust was."